[Chemistry_faculty] FW: competition
Chia-en A. Chang
chiaenc at ucr.edu
Tue Jan 16 12:46:35 PST 2024
also BS/MS programs like some engineering departments have?
On 1/16/2024 12:23 PM, Kevin Kou wrote:
> There will be some interest/demand for a masters track program by
> those looking to improve their GPA or gain some more experience prior
> to applying to MD, PharmD, etc. programs. I've written letters for
> students to pursue post-bac degrees at CSUs and MS in UCR's biomedical
> sciences programs for this purpose.
>
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 12:07 PM bartels at ucr.edu <bartels at ucr.edu> wrote:
>
> I See Matt‘s concern; „offering“ such opportunity and then
> appraising the students that they could also get it for free if
> they enroll as Ph.D. Students will increase our PhD applicant
> pool. I See this as a win, even if no or very few students were
> actually ever to enroll in the MASC program.
>
> Ludwig Bartels
> Professor of Chemistry
> University of California at Riverside
> Phone: 951 827 2041
>
>
>> On Jan 16, 2024, at 11:01, Matthew Conley
>> <matthew.conley at ucr.edu> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm having a hard time seeing a population that would benefit
>> from paying $36k/year for a MACS degree. We give an arguably more
>> valuable MS/MA degree to students that do not matriculate through
>> our PhD program at near-zero cost to the student. This is just a
>> revenue generator at a significant cost to the student.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 10:48 AM Leonard Mueller
>> <lmueller at ucr.edu> wrote:
>>
>> One challenge for different target populations is the cost of
>> professional school tuition. The UCLA program is $36k/year
>> just for tuition.
>>
>> -Len
>>
>> *From:*bartels at ucr.edu [mailto:bartels at ucr.edu]
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 15, 2024 10:42 AM
>> *To:* leonard.mueller at ucr.edu
>> *Cc:* chemistry_faculty at lists.ucr.edu
>> *Subject:* Re: [Chemistry_faculty] FW: competition
>>
>> I believe this is a good idea for the following reasons:
>>
>> -increases enrollment in graduate courses and thus allows us
>> to offer a wider range
>>
>> -provides a pathway to attract local students who are unsure
>> about going all the way for PhD; as such, it will increase
>> domestic in-state enrollment. Ultimately, we may convince the
>> best of them to become PhD students
>>
>> -there is likely some funding coming to the department as a
>> portion of the fees out of state students pay
>>
>> -it provides additional educational opportunity to our
>> stakeholders at minimal incremental cost to the department
>>
>> Ludwig Bartels
>>
>> Professor of Chemistry
>>
>> University of California at Riverside
>>
>> Phone: 951 827 2041
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 15, 2024, at 06:59, Leonard Mueller
>> <lmueller at ucr.edu> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Colleagues,
>>
>> You may find this interesting. I expect that we could do
>> something even better if we put ourselves to it. I would
>> be interested in your opinions on this. Perhaps we can
>> have a discussion on the Dept Slack regarding a
>> professional masters program.
>>
>> -Len
>>
>> *From:*Michael Pirrung [mailto:michael.pirrung at ucr.edu]
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 15, 2024 5:50 AM
>> *To:* Ana Bahamonde <ana.bahamonde at ucr.edu>; Matthew D
>> Casselman <matthew.casselman at ucr.edu>; Richard Hooley
>> <richard.hooley at ucr.edu>; Kevin Kou <kevink at ucr.edu>;
>> Catharine Larsen <catharine.larsen at ucr.edu>; William
>> James Neary <william.neary at ucr.edu>; Chris Switzer
>> <christopher.switzer at ucr.edu>
>> *Cc:* leonard.mueller at ucr.edu
>> *Subject:* competition
>>
>> https://macsucla.com/
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Dr. Michael Pirrung
>> Distinguished Professor of Chemistry
>> University of California
>> Riverside, CA 92521
>>
>> Professor of Pharmaceutical Science
>> University of California
>> Irvine, CA 92697
>> v: 951-827-2722
>> michael.pirrung at ucr.edu <mailto:michael.pirrung at ucr.edu>
>> https://profiles.ucr.edu/michael.pirrung
>> <https://profiles.ucr.edu/michael.pirrung>
>> Room 448, Chemical Sciences
>>
>> All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered;
>> the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei (1564 - 1642).
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