[Chemistry_faculty] FW: competition

[Kevin Kou]

There will be some interest/demand for a masters track program by those
looking to improve their GPA or gain some more experience prior to applying
to MD, PharmD, etc. programs. I've written letters for students to pursue
post-bac degrees at CSUs and MS in UCR's biomedical sciences programs for
this purpose.

On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 12:07 PM bartels at ucr.edu <bartels at ucr.edu> wrote:

> I See Matt‘s concern; „offering“ such opportunity and then appraising the
> students that they could also get it for free if they enroll as Ph.D.
> Students will increase our PhD applicant pool. I See this as a win, even if
> no or very few students were actually ever to enroll in the MASC program.
>
> Ludwig Bartels
> Professor of Chemistry
> University of California at Riverside
> Phone: 951 827 2041
>
>
> On Jan 16, 2024, at 11:01, Matthew Conley <matthew.conley at ucr.edu> wrote:
>
> 
>
> I'm having a hard time seeing a population that would benefit from paying
> $36k/year for a MACS degree. We give an arguably more valuable MS/MA degree
> to students that do not matriculate through our PhD program at near-zero
> cost to the student. This is just a revenue generator at a significant cost
> to the student.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 10:48 AM Leonard Mueller <lmueller at ucr.edu> wrote:
>
>> One challenge for different target populations is the cost of
>> professional school tuition. The UCLA program is $36k/year just for tuition.
>>
>> -Len
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* bartels at ucr.edu [mailto:bartels at ucr.edu]
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 15, 2024 10:42 AM
>> *To:* leonard.mueller at ucr.edu
>> *Cc:* chemistry_faculty at lists.ucr.edu
>> *Subject:* Re: [Chemistry_faculty] FW: competition
>>
>>
>>
>> I believe this is a good idea for the following reasons:
>>
>>
>>
>> -increases enrollment in graduate courses and thus allows us to offer a
>> wider range
>>
>> -provides a pathway to attract local students who are unsure about going
>> all the way for PhD; as such, it will increase domestic in-state
>> enrollment. Ultimately, we may convince the best of them to become PhD
>> students
>>
>> -there is likely some funding coming to the department as a portion of
>> the fees out of state students pay
>>
>> -it provides additional educational opportunity to our stakeholders at
>> minimal incremental cost to the department
>>
>>
>>
>> Ludwig Bartels
>>
>> Professor of Chemistry
>>
>> University of California at Riverside
>>
>> Phone: 951 827 2041
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 15, 2024, at 06:59, Leonard Mueller <lmueller at ucr.edu> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Colleagues,
>>
>> You may find this interesting. I expect that we could do something even
>> better if we put ourselves to it. I would be interested in your opinions on
>> this. Perhaps we can have a discussion on the Dept Slack regarding a
>> professional masters program.
>>
>> -Len
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Michael Pirrung [mailto:michael.pirrung at ucr.edu]
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 15, 2024 5:50 AM
>> *To:* Ana Bahamonde <ana.bahamonde at ucr.edu>; Matthew D Casselman <
>> matthew.casselman at ucr.edu>; Richard Hooley <richard.hooley at ucr.edu>;
>> Kevin Kou <kevink at ucr.edu>; Catharine Larsen <catharine.larsen at ucr.edu>;
>> William James Neary <william.neary at ucr.edu>; Chris Switzer <
>> christopher.switzer at ucr.edu>
>> *Cc:* leonard.mueller at ucr.edu
>> *Subject:* competition
>>
>>
>>
>> https://macsucla.com/
>>
>>
>>   --
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Dr. Michael Pirrung
>> Distinguished Professor of Chemistry
>> University of California
>> Riverside, CA 92521
>>
>> Professor of Pharmaceutical Science
>> University of California
>> Irvine, CA 92697
>> v: 951-827-2722
>> michael.pirrung at ucr.edu
>> https://profiles.ucr.edu/michael.pirrung
>> Room 448, Chemical Sciences
>>
>>
>>
>> All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered;
>> the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei (1564 - 1642).
>>
>>
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*Kevin Kou, PhD*
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