[LOGOS] Slack and two research questions

Wed Jan 31 17:03:54 PST 2024

Thanks Shaun!

I guess the journalist was "basing" his hypothesis on papers like
https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2009-02977-004

There's one bit in this paper that I found particularly interesting,
perhaps related to some of your points:

Notably, the concept of intrinsic versus extrinsic values should not be
> confused with the concept of intrinsic versus extrinsic motivation (Sheldon
> & Kasser, 1998). Sheldon, Ryan, Deci, and Kasser (2004) showed that the
> “what” of motivation (i.e., intrinsic vs. extrinsic contents) has distinct
> effects, as compared to the “why” of motivation (i.e., intrinsic vs.
> extrinsic reasons for acting), although they have similar conceptual roots.

I have also seen similar/related literature in the COVID-19 vaccine debate
wrt individualism, which cites the paper above, e.g.,
https://www.pnas.org/doi/epdf/10.1073/pnas.2108225118 [on COVID, @Efstratiou,
Alexandros <alexandros.efstratiou.20 at ucl.ac.uk> knows a lot more than me
:)] and overall about being "pro-social" (e.g.,
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/epub/10.1002/per.845)

Cheers,

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Prof. Emiliano De Cristofaro
Computer Science and Engineering
University of California, Riverside
https://emilianodc.com

On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 1:08 PM Shaun Bowler <shaun.bowler at ucr.edu> wrote:

> Thanks and yes..
>
> I’m not sure that the take in the *Guardian* article is quite accurate
> about the difference between intrinsic and extrinsic (it did read a bit
> like the journalist wanted to write that liberals are good and noble while
> conservatives are selfish weasels and ) —  Republicans have intrinsic
> motivations too they are just different from Democratic ones.
>
> So there would be a difference and a sentiment analysis of known sources
> would show that  Tho that has maybe been done.
>
> Perhaps there is scope to lool for the overlaps in sentiment rather than
> demonstrating differences.. Looking for “purple” rather than red or blue?
> Perhaps liberals and conservative can all agree to be Swifties?   (Although
> perhaps not.. This morning’s news is that Taylor Swift is apparently part
> of a Deep State plot to throw the Super Bowl to Joe Biden….    The Ravens
> were clearly in on the plot on Sunday - just ask Lamar Jackson).  Again
> though that may be done and it may be “no no it is the differences we find
> interesting"
>
>
> In the spirit of Kevin and Diogo’s presentation I was wondering if it is
> possible to represent sentiment.. One kind of prospective..  the court
> judgements (on Carroll and the next one on fraud will be exogenous
> interventions in news.. and so the response to that. These judgments are
> generally clearly good or bad for Trump.. Maybe   the pro and anti-Trump
> networks deal with good and bad news differently.  Perhaps bad news for
> Trump is really exaggerated/repeated in anti-Trump networks and ignored by
> pro-Trump ones?    So that wouldn’t so much be an analysis of content but
> an analysis of how sharing  good news versus bad news differs and using a
> guilt verdict or fine to categorize whether the information was good for
> Trump or bad.
>
>
> Tho I think an interesting one would be to try and look at age differences
> in topics.. I haven’t got a way into that topic yet tho’.. But we know
> there are differences in what people talk about and how. Old people talk
> about doctors a lot. (I know I do).. I don’t know what young people talk
> about.  And there is a political split -   we see that over Gaza  where
> older Americans are much less critical of Israel. .. and they see the value
> of voting differently.   But that requires knowing something about the
> identity (or at least age) of the person getting/sending the news
>
> On Jan 29, 2024, at 7:04 PM, Diogo Ferrari <diogoferrari at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yes. It would be interesting to see activities on other platforms around
> Jan 6th…
>
> I will check that article. Thanks for sharing!
>
> Kevin M Esterling <kevin.esterling at ucr.edu> writes:
>
> Hi Emiliano,
>>
>> Thanks for the Slack channel!
>>
>> In terms of replatforming, at least on Twitter/X we can't study that
>> because X has cut off data access for researchers. Unfortunately. Maybe it
>> can be done on other platforms…
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>> Kevin M. Esterling (he/him) Professor of Public Policy and Political
>> Science Director, Laboratory for Technology, Communication and Democracy
>> (TeCD-Lab) https://tecd-lab.ucr.edu/ UC Riverside 900 University Ave.
>> Riverside, CA 92521 951-827-5591 https://profiles.ucr.edu/kevin.esterling
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------–—
>> From: LOGOS <logos-bounces at lists.ucr.edu> on behalf of Emiliano De
>> Cristofaro <emilianodc at cs.ucr.edu> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2024 1:13
>> PM To: LOGOS at lists.ucr.edu <LOGOS at lists.ucr.edu> Subject: [LOGOS] Slack
>> and two research questions
>>
>> Hi LOGOSers,
>>
>> Three things:
>>
>> 1) If you are a Slack user, please consider joining the Cybersafety
>> Research workspace via this invite link. I will create a private channel
>> there for #logos.
>>
>> 2) Has there been much work on "re-platforming"? I.e., what happened on
>> Twitter/Reddit when a bunch of previously deplatformed high-profile users
>> were reinstated? (And on Reddit for certain subreddits)
>>
>> 3) I was reading this article on the Guardian:
>> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/jan/29/donald-trump-americans-us-culture-republican.
>> Basically, it posits that "US culture is an incubator of extrinsic values,
>> and nobody embodies them like Trump" Is there any work done looking at this
>> on Trump-supporting web communities/accounts?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>
>
>
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> Diogo Ferrari, Ph. D.
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> Department of Political Science
> University of California, Riverside
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