[Tlc] T-"Siam"
justinm at ucr.edu
justinm at ucr.edu
Thu Apr 5 21:25:09 PDT 2007
On the question of the origin of "Siam", I have
>> checked that absolutely essential source,
>> Hobson-Jobson. I quote: "This name [Siam] of the
>> Indo-Chinese Kingdom appears to come to us through
>> the Malays, who call it Siyam. From them we presume
>> the Portugese took their Reyno de Sião as Barros
>> and Couto write it, although we have in Correa Siam
>> precisely as we write it. Camões also write Syão
>> for the kingdom; and the statement of La Loubère
>> quoted below that the Portuguese used Siam as a
>> national, not a geographical, expression." H-J goes
>> on to suggest that the Malay word was the origin of
>> the Chinese Sien or Hsien and is identical with
>> Shan. Refer to the whole entry (pp. 833-34) for
>> further information.
>>
>> In other words, the "Siam" that was officially
>> recognized as the (foreign) name of the country
>> during Mongkut's reign was the name the country had
>> been known since at least the 16th century by
>> Westerners. Prior to the mid-19th century the
>> country had always been known internally as Müang
>> Thai , but during Chulalongkorn's reign the
>> designation of Prathet Sayam came to be employed
>> for internal official purposes.
>>
>> The name became a political issue in the 1930s when
>> Phibul and Wichit Watthakan decided to promote a
>> "pan-Tai" movement and "Thai"/"Tai" took on more
>> racial connotations. Pridi's decision to reinstitute
>> the name "Siam" represented an explicit rejection of
>> the racial connotation of "Thailand" (in English),
>> although Müang Thai or Prathet Thai were still used
>> in Thai. When Phibul returned to power, the official
>> foreign name again became "Thailand".
>>
>> Some intellectuals from perhaps as early as the late
>> 1950s began to agitate to have the name "Siam"
>> adopted as a sign of rejection of the
>> rightwing/militarist character of the government
>> since Phibul's return and of support for the more
>> democratic ideal of Pridi. I recall personally that
>> in the 1960s there was considerable advocacy for a
>> the reinstitution of "Siam". The leading advocate of
>> this position at the time was Sulak Sivaraksa who
>> was then editor of Social Science Review. Sulak has
>> never given up the goal of restoring the name
>> "Siam." I suspect Charnvit's proposal is linked to
>> the earlier anti-rightist promotion of "Siam". I am
>> intrigued, thus, by Jim Ockey's suggestion that some
>> rightwing people are now advocating the adoption of
>> "Siam" I would be interested in knowing who he is
>> referring to.
>>
>> Anybody want to discuss "Burma/Myanmar"?
>>
>> Biff (Charles Keyes)
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Dr. Justin McDaniel
Dept. of Religious Studies
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University of California, Riverside
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