[RITL] Research Software and Licensing

Fri May 12 12:16:44 PDT 2023

We got the higher Ed price but that's it. BTW remember Globus is just a front end to access various types of storage. For example, POSIX data sources, Cloud Storage like we use with AWS and S3 buckets. Also if high-speed throughput is needed or required proper Globus servers and networking needs to be deployed. SOM mostly use this for more archival data that is rarely touch thus using Glacier buckets and Instant Retrieval buckets to keep costs down and redundancy high

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From: Katherine Koziar <katherine.koziar at ucr.edu>
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Subject: RE: [RITL] Research Software and Licensing

I suspect CHASS folks would appreciate a mixed methods/qualitative data analysis package. We performed a general survey of UCR authored articles recently, and NVivo is the most used, but in the library we also get requests for Atlas.ti, MaxQDA, and Dedoose. Inquiries are both "do we have a discount/site license" and "can you help me use it".

-kat

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Subject: Re: [RITL] Research Software and Licensing

Yes, Globus, the paid version. It's high up there on the wish list.

Jeff, Does SOM have some discount Globus packages or is it more or less standard pricing?

Thanks
Chuck

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Subject: RE: [RITL] Research Software and Licensing

Are we talking https://www.globus.org/<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.globus.org/__;!!OLyWHuc!VP8UKGQGU6SQZ8wTRkrlGb9C1_0dN11fYqWGNM5WDbdalWmFxImJxAS2gxnsFyDYnHdYu437dS9Fm_8CbYbprxaaQYR7WnrJlnJnpm8$> for Globus? If so UCR SOM has access to the paid version. We only use Amazon S3 storage and mostly for Archive Storage as its super cheap per TB. We are at about 2$ per month(before Ingress/Egress charges)

Jeff Flogerzi

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School of Medicine, Office of Information Technology

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Subject: Re: [RITL] Research Software and Licensing

We have labs using:

*  Matlab

*  STATA

*  GLOBUS

*  Ansys

*  Gaussian

*  There might be more.

For Matlab it would be useful to know what components our UCR license covers. Or perhaps this is clearly spelled out somewhere?

Regarding Globus we are limited to the free version. Having access to the full version would be great.

I guess an obvious suggestion is to survey how many labs are using what software so that funds could be invested based on the number of users. Our internal HPCC funding policy for commercial software usually is that labs have to fund commercial software on their own if they are the only ones using it, or identify a shared solution jointly with other user labs. Only in specialty cases we contribute to the licensing fee, usually when there are sufficient user labs and the cost is reasonable.

Another aspect that should be discussed here is teaching needs for some of these commercial tools where recent cloud solutions should receive more attention including Matlab Web and Posit Cloud. Some have JupyterHub options that are often free but come at the cost of hosting them on local or commercial cloud systems.

Thomas

On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 12:58 PM Chuck Forsyth <charles.forsyth at ucr.edu<mailto:charles.forsyth at ucr.edu>> wrote:

Yes, I think you are right.

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Subject: RE: Research Software and Licensing

RedCap is free if self hosted correct?

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Subject: Re: [RITL] Research Software and Licensing

UCR current has a site license for Matlab, but getting it at the UC wide level would obviously be great.

Some others in use in BCOE:

  *   NI/Labview
  *   Ansys

Tom Gregory

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Subject: Research Software and Licensing

Hi Team,

What research software are our users using that we would like to have a discount for, or would to see benefit from a UC system-wide license agreement?

  *   Matlab?
  *   ESRI?
  *   STATA?
  *   GLOBUS?
  *   REDCap?

@Tom Gregory<mailto:tom.gregory at ucr.edu> @Victor Hill<mailto:victor.hill at ucr.edu> what about some of the engineering software out there like Ansys, Comsol, Maxwell, Gaussian, and Ababus do we have people running these? How is it funded?

This is in support of a UC Research IT Committee RITC Research Software Democratization Recommendations<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1aiGkPLES95xGlDq2QNg4zfU5YPh7KPrLIKDTSQzD-Mc/edit?usp=sharing__;!!OLyWHuc!WeH6EWhOlGwsXLIsbcYbItk7WDd8QYiNEHTKopeRkqRiD7CvMyCYvhUrw1odUrNk3Qio8w6IyIbx158Xu4KlyklpwNU$> document we are working on this year.

Regards,

Chuck

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