[LOGOS] Slack and two research questions

Thu Feb 1 07:43:08 PST 2024

yep.. that’s a good take on it.

On Jan 31, 2024, at 5:03 PM, Emiliano De Cristofaro <emilianodc at cs.ucr.edu<mailto:emilianodc at cs.ucr.edu>> wrote:

Thanks Shaun!

I guess the journalist was "basing" his hypothesis on papers like https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2009-02977-004

There's one bit in this paper that I found particularly interesting, perhaps related to some of your points:

Notably, the concept of intrinsic versus extrinsic values should not be confused with the concept of intrinsic versus extrinsic motivation (Sheldon & Kasser, 1998). Sheldon, Ryan, Deci, and Kasser (2004) showed that the “what” of motivation (i.e., intrinsic vs. extrinsic contents) has distinct effects, as compared to the “why” of motivation (i.e., intrinsic vs. extrinsic reasons for acting), although they have similar conceptual roots.

I have also seen similar/related literature in the COVID-19 vaccine debate wrt individualism, which cites the paper above, e.g., https://www.pnas.org/doi/epdf/10.1073/pnas.2108225118 [on COVID, @Efstratiou, Alexandros<mailto:alexandros.efstratiou.20 at ucl.ac.uk> knows a lot more than me :)] and overall about being "pro-social" (e.g., https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/epub/10.1002/per.845)

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On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 1:08 PM Shaun Bowler <shaun.bowler at ucr.edu<mailto:shaun.bowler at ucr.edu>> wrote:
Thanks and yes..

I’m not sure that the take in the Guardian article is quite accurate about the difference between intrinsic and extrinsic (it did read a bit like the journalist wanted to write that liberals are good and noble while conservatives are selfish weasels and ) —  Republicans have intrinsic motivations too they are just different from Democratic ones.

So there would be a difference and a sentiment analysis of known sources would show that  Tho that has maybe been done.

Perhaps there is scope to lool for the overlaps in sentiment rather than demonstrating differences.. Looking for “purple” rather than red or blue?  Perhaps liberals and conservative can all agree to be Swifties?   (Although perhaps not.. This morning’s news is that Taylor Swift is apparently part of a Deep State plot to throw the Super Bowl to Joe Biden….    The Ravens were clearly in on the plot on Sunday - just ask Lamar Jackson).  Again though that may be done and it may be “no no it is the differences we find interesting"

In the spirit of Kevin and Diogo’s presentation I was wondering if it is possible to represent sentiment.. One kind of prospective..  the court judgements (on Carroll and the next one on fraud will be exogenous interventions in news.. and so the response to that. These judgments are generally clearly good or bad for Trump.. Maybe   the pro and anti-Trump networks deal with good and bad news differently.  Perhaps bad news for Trump is really exaggerated/repeated in anti-Trump networks and ignored by pro-Trump ones?    So that wouldn’t so much be an analysis of content but an analysis of how sharing  good news versus bad news differs and using a guilt verdict or fine to categorize whether the information was good for Trump or bad.

Tho I think an interesting one would be to try and look at age differences in topics.. I haven’t got a way into that topic yet tho’.. But we know there are differences in what people talk about and how. Old people talk about doctors a lot. (I know I do).. I don’t know what young people talk about.  And there is a political split -   we see that over Gaza  where older Americans are much less critical of Israel. .. and they see the value of voting differently.   But that requires knowing something about the identity (or at least age) of the person getting/sending the news

On Jan 29, 2024, at 7:04 PM, Diogo Ferrari <diogoferrari at gmail.com<mailto:diogoferrari at gmail.com>> wrote:

Yes. It would be interesting to see activities on other platforms around Jan 6th…

I will check that article. Thanks for sharing!

Kevin M Esterling <kevin.esterling at ucr.edu<mailto:kevin.esterling at ucr.edu>> writes:

Hi Emiliano,

Thanks for the Slack channel!

In terms of replatforming, at least on Twitter/X we can't study that because X has cut off data access for researchers. Unfortunately. Maybe it can be done on other platforms…

Kevin

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--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------–— From: LOGOS <logos-bounces at lists.ucr.edu<mailto:logos-bounces at lists.ucr.edu>> on behalf of Emiliano De Cristofaro <emilianodc at cs.ucr.edu<mailto:emilianodc at cs.ucr.edu>> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2024 1:13 PM To: LOGOS at lists.ucr.edu<mailto:LOGOS at lists.ucr.edu> <LOGOS at lists.ucr.edu<mailto:LOGOS at lists.ucr.edu>> Subject: [LOGOS] Slack and two research questions

Hi LOGOSers,

Three things:

1) If you are a Slack user, please consider joining the Cybersafety Research workspace via this invite link. I will create a private channel there for #logos.

2) Has there been much work on "re-platforming"? I.e., what happened on Twitter/Reddit when a bunch of previously deplatformed high-profile users were reinstated? (And on Reddit for certain subreddits)

3) I was reading this article on the Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/jan/29/donald-trump-americans-us-culture-republican. Basically, it posits that "US culture is an incubator of extrinsic values, and nobody embodies them like Trump" Is there any work done looking at this on Trump-supporting web communities/accounts?

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