[Chemistry_faculty] FW: competition

[Matthew Conley]

I'm having a hard time seeing a population that would benefit from paying
$36k/year for a MACS degree. We give an arguably more valuable MS/MA degree
to students that do not matriculate through our PhD program at near-zero
cost to the student. This is just a revenue generator at a significant cost
to the student.



On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 10:48 AM Leonard Mueller <lmueller at ucr.edu> wrote:

> One challenge for different target populations is the cost of professional
> school tuition. The UCLA program is $36k/year just for tuition.
>
> -Len
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> *From:* bartels at ucr.edu [mailto:bartels at ucr.edu]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 15, 2024 10:42 AM
> *To:* leonard.mueller at ucr.edu
> *Cc:* chemistry_faculty at lists.ucr.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [Chemistry_faculty] FW: competition
>
>
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> I believe this is a good idea for the following reasons:
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>
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> -increases enrollment in graduate courses and thus allows us to offer a
> wider range
>
> -provides a pathway to attract local students who are unsure about going
> all the way for PhD; as such, it will increase domestic in-state
> enrollment. Ultimately, we may convince the best of them to become PhD
> students
>
> -there is likely some funding coming to the department as a portion of the
> fees out of state students pay
>
> -it provides additional educational opportunity to our stakeholders at
> minimal incremental cost to the department
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>
>
> Ludwig Bartels
>
> Professor of Chemistry
>
> University of California at Riverside
>
> Phone: 951 827 2041
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> On Jan 15, 2024, at 06:59, Leonard Mueller <lmueller at ucr.edu> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Colleagues,
>
> You may find this interesting. I expect that we could do something even
> better if we put ourselves to it. I would be interested in your opinions on
> this. Perhaps we can have a discussion on the Dept Slack regarding a
> professional masters program.
>
> -Len
>
>
>
> *From:* Michael Pirrung [mailto:michael.pirrung at ucr.edu]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 15, 2024 5:50 AM
> *To:* Ana Bahamonde <ana.bahamonde at ucr.edu>; Matthew D Casselman <
> matthew.casselman at ucr.edu>; Richard Hooley <richard.hooley at ucr.edu>;
> Kevin Kou <kevink at ucr.edu>; Catharine Larsen <catharine.larsen at ucr.edu>;
> William James Neary <william.neary at ucr.edu>; Chris Switzer <
> christopher.switzer at ucr.edu>
> *Cc:* leonard.mueller at ucr.edu
> *Subject:* competition
>
>
>
> https://macsucla.com/
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>
>   --
> Best Regards,
>
> Dr. Michael Pirrung
> Distinguished Professor of Chemistry
> University of California
> Riverside, CA 92521
>
> Professor of Pharmaceutical Science
> University of California
> Irvine, CA 92697
> v: 951-827-2722
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